[MOCKUP] Deployment topology — diagrams as separate replies
This is a reference for how a stock Talkyard deployment is laid out at the container level, as of v1.2026.003: what each container runs, the private networks that segment them, and which services can talk to which over which network. Everything below is drawn from the shipped docker-compose.yml, the default .env, and the running server source — it describes the upstream default topology, not any one person's install.
This topic is split across three replies below — one diagram each — so each can be linked to directly (permalink) and discussed on its own thread:
- Container inventory — what each container runs
- The five networks — segmentation
- Runtime traffic — who talks to whom
(Reply to a specific one below to comment on that exact diagram.)
- I@IvanTheGeek
1. Container inventory — what each container runs
A default Talkyard install is a single Docker Compose project of seven long-running containers plus one on-demand backup container. Each uses a
debiki/talkyard-*image pinned to the same version tag.flowchart TB subgraph project["Docker Compose project — images debiki/talkyard-*:v1.2026.003"] web["web<br/>OpenResty (nginx + Lua)<br/>reverse proxy · rate + conn limits (native nginx)<br/>bandwidth limits (Lua) · serves /-/u/* uploads directly<br/>publishes host ports 80 + 443"] app["app<br/>JVM Java 11 · Play Framework (Scala)<br/>talkyard-server :9000 (HTTP)<br/>React SSR in-JVM (Nashorn)<br/>WebSocket pub-sub as an in-JVM actor"] cache["cache<br/>Redis 8.6.1 :6379<br/>presence · watchbar · one-time login secrets<br/>link-preview cache · auto-SSL cert storage<br/>(not a page cache · no Redis pub-sub)"] rdb[("rdb<br/>PostgreSQL 18.3 :5432<br/>database 'talkyard' — all forum data")] search["search<br/>Elasticsearch 9.3.1<br/>:9200 REST · :9300 transport (unused, single node)<br/>full-text index"] rendr["rendr<br/>debian:13.3-slim<br/>placeholder (sleep infinity) — no traffic today<br/>future Deno React SSR"] egressp["egressp<br/>Smokescreen (Stripe, Go) :4750<br/>SSRF-filtering egress proxy<br/>read-only rootfs · cap_drop ALL"] backup["backup<br/>debian-slim + pg client + gpg<br/>profiles:[backup] — never auto-starts<br/>one-shot: pg_dumpall + uploads, optional GPG at rest"] end classDef front fill:#2d5016,stroke:#7cb342,color:#fff classDef back fill:#4a2c5e,stroke:#ab7fd1,color:#fff classDef egress fill:#5e2c2c,stroke:#d17f7f,color:#fff classDef sleepy fill:#3a3a3a,stroke:#888,color:#bbb,stroke-dasharray:5 5 class web,cache front class app,rdb,search back class egressp egress class rendr,backup sleepy- web (OpenResty) is the ingress. It reverse-proxies dynamic requests to
app, enforces rate/connection limits with native nginx (limit_req/limit_conn) and bandwidth limits with Lua, and serves uploaded files under/-/u/*directly off the uploads volume. In a stock install it publishes ports 80 and 443 to the host. - app is the Scala/Play server (
talkyard-server) on port 9000. React server-side rendering currently runs inside the JVM (Nashorn), and live WebSocket fan-out is an in-JVM actor — Redis is not used as a pub-sub bus. - cache is Redis. It holds user presence, the watchbar, one-time login/SSO secrets, the link-preview HTML cache, and web's auto-SSL cert storage. It is deliberately not a rendered-page cache (that lives in the JVM mem-cache plus a Postgres
page_htmltable). - rdb is PostgreSQL — the single source of truth for all forum data.
- search is Elasticsearch, a single node holding the full-text index (its :9300 transport port is unused with one node).
- rendr ships as an idle placeholder for a future out-of-JVM (Deno) renderer; it receives no traffic today.
- egressp is Smokescreen, an SSRF-filtering egress proxy with a read-only rootfs and all capabilities dropped. All of
app's outbound traffic goes through it. - backup carries the
[backup]profile, so it never auto-starts; it is run on demand topg_dumpallthe database and archive uploads (with optional GPG encryption at rest).
- web (OpenResty) is the ingress. It reverse-proxies dynamic requests to
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2. The five networks — segmentation
Compose defines five internal networks, each a
/24in the172.26.xrange (these subnets and their internal/public flags are upstream.envdefaults). Two are internet-capable; three areinternal: truewith no route off the host. Membership is what enforces the segmentation. Edge labels show each container's pinned static IP on that network.flowchart LR inet(("Internet")) web["web"] app["app"] cache["cache"] rdb["rdb"] search["search"] rendr["rendr"] egressp["egressp"] backup["backup<br/>(only while running)"] fepub{{"fe_pub_net<br/>172.26.1.0/24<br/>internet-capable"}} feint{{"fe_int_net<br/>172.26.2.0/24 · internal"}} beint{{"be_int_net<br/>172.26.3.0/24 · internal"}} egint{{"eg_int_net<br/>172.26.4.0/24 · internal"}} egpub{{"eg_pub_net<br/>172.26.5.0/24<br/>internet-capable"}} inet ---|"host :80 :443"| web web ---|".1.21"| fepub fepub -.-|"outbound only"| inet web ---|".2.21"| feint cache ---|".2.31"| feint app ---|".2.41"| feint app ---|".3.41"| beint rendr ---|".3.51"| beint rdb ---|".3.61"| beint search ---|".3.71"| beint backup ---|"dynamic IP"| beint app ---|".4.41"| egint egressp ---|".4.99"| egint egressp ---|".5.99"| egpub egpub ---|"outbound"| inet classDef net fill:#4a2c5e,stroke:#ab7fd1,color:#fff classDef pubnet fill:#7a4a1e,stroke:#e0a060,color:#fff classDef ctr fill:#1e3a5f,stroke:#4a90d9,color:#fff classDef world fill:#2d5016,stroke:#7cb342,color:#fff class feint,beint,egint net class fepub,egpub pubnet class web,app,cache,rdb,search,rendr,egressp,backup ctr class inet world- fe_pub_net (
172.26.1.0/24, internet-capable) — web only. This is web's outbound path; inbound reaches web via its published host ports. - fe_int_net (
172.26.2.0/24, internal) — web, cache, app. The front tier: web proxies to app, and both app and web reach Redis here. - be_int_net (
172.26.3.0/24, internal) — app, rendr, rdb, search (and backup while it runs). The back tier holds the datastores; nothing here can reach the internet. - eg_int_net (
172.26.4.0/24, internal) — app, egressp. The only egress path app has to the outside world. - eg_pub_net (
172.26.5.0/24, internet-capable) — egressp only. Smokescreen's own outbound path.
The
172.26.xaddresses are pinned (via.env) so container IPs survive restarts. The segmentation story in one line: onlywebandegresspcan touch the internet (andwebonly outbound onfe_pub_net);rdb,search, andrendrsit on internal-only networks and can see nothing butapp, each other, and the backup job during its run; andapp's only route off the host is through the Smokescreen egress proxy.You can optionally place your own reverse proxy (Traefik, nginx, HAProxy, a cloud load balancer, etc.) in front of web's published ports for TLS termination or vhost routing — the topology above is unchanged either way.
- fe_pub_net (
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3. Runtime traffic — who talks to whom
This is the same set of containers viewed as traffic flows, annotated with the network each hop rides on and the protocol.
flowchart LR user(("Browser /<br/>API client")) smtp["SMTP relay<br/>(outgoing email)"] ext["Link-preview sites ·<br/>webhook targets"] web["web<br/>OpenResty"] app["app<br/>talkyard-server"] cache["cache<br/>Redis"] rdb[("rdb<br/>PostgreSQL")] search["search<br/>Elasticsearch"] rendr["rendr<br/>(idle placeholder)"] egressp["egressp<br/>Smokescreen"] pubf[("pub-files<br/>volume")] user -->|"HTTPS/HTTP → host :443 / :80"| web web -->|"HTTP + WebSocket → app:9000<br/>net: fe_int"| app web -->|"/-/u/* upload bytes from volume (ro)<br/>after auth_request → app"| pubf web -.->|"auto-SSL cert storage → cache:6379<br/>net: fe_int (dormant by default)"| cache app -->|"JDBC → rdb:5432<br/>net: be_int"| rdb app -->|"REST → search:9200<br/>net: be_int"| search app -->|"presence · watchbar · login secrets<br/>· link-preview cache → cache:6379 · net: fe_int"| cache app -->|"ALL outbound (http_proxy + JVM flags)<br/>→ egressp:4750 · net: eg_int"| egressp app x-.-x|"no traffic today<br/>(SSR runs in-JVM)"| rendr egressp -->|"SMTP STARTTLS :587<br/>net: eg_pub"| smtp egressp -->|"HTTPS: link previews<br/>net: eg_pub"| ext egressp -.->|"webhooks (if configured)"| ext classDef world fill:#2d5016,stroke:#7cb342,color:#fff classDef edge fill:#1e3a5f,stroke:#4a90d9,color:#fff classDef svc fill:#4a2c5e,stroke:#ab7fd1,color:#fff classDef idle fill:#3a3a3a,stroke:#888,color:#bbb,stroke-dasharray:5 5 classDef vol fill:#7a4a1e,stroke:#e0a060,color:#fff class user,smtp,ext world class web,egressp edge class app,cache,rdb,search svc class rendr idle class pubf vol- Browser/API client → web over the published host ports (443 for HTTPS, 80 redirecting to HTTPS in a typical setup).
- web → app (
fe_int) carries all dynamic requests, including the WebSocket upgrade (proxy_pass http://app:9000/-/websocket). - web → pub-files (ro) — uploaded files under
/-/u/<pubSiteId>/<hashPath>are streamed straight from the volume by nginx (app never streams the bytes), but each request first passes an nginxauth_requestsubrequest toapp(may-download-file) for authorization. Talkyard's own JS/CSS under/-/assets/*is served from the web image's disk, with app not involved at all. - web → cache (
fe_int) is web's auto-SSL cert storage — dormant unless web is terminating TLS itself. - app → rdb (
be_int) over JDBC for all forum data. - app → search (
be_int) over the Elasticsearch REST API for the full-text index. - app → cache (
fe_int) for presence, watchbar, one-time login secrets, and the link-preview cache. (Presence is written on logged-in HTTP activity, not on WebSocket connect.) - app → egressp (
eg_int) — all of app's outbound traffic is forced through Smokescreen viahttp_proxy/https_proxyenv vars plus JVM proxy flags. From there, oneg_pub, Smokescreen reaches the outgoing SMTP relay (STARTTLS :587), fetches link previews over HTTPS, and delivers webhooks if any are configured. - app → rendr carries no traffic today, since SSR runs inside the JVM.
Taken together: the front tier terminates and rate-limits requests, the app tier holds all logic and is the only thing that talks to the datastores, the datastores are quarantined on internal-only networks, and every byte the app sends to the internet is mediated by a single SSRF-filtering egress proxy.